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Old 07-15-2019, 08:05 PM   #1
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Default Al Queda / Islamic State (ISIS) Banner or Flag

I waited several months to be sure, but yes. it appears that the so-called Islamic State has been destroyed.

And so, I can present this banner in the interests of establishing a record here in accordance to the light I prefer it be seen in; as a lone scattered remnant of a crushed and vanquished enemy.

Today this banner is more formally recognized as that of the Black Standard of the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIS or Daesh) but it was originally used by Al Qaeda in Iraq, and I believe it dates to just before the IS split with AQ - so technically, I believe this is an Al Qaeda banner, though the only thing that would mark one from the other is time.

Flags and banners like this are very rare, as regular coalition troops were not allowed to retain them; our military intelligence process needed such tangible evidence to establish who was associated with who, and doing what where. However, I obtained this from an "independent" US adviser to Iraqi police/anti-terrorist forces some years ago, the same fellow I obtained an early Iraqi insurgent banner from that I've poster here previously. The previous banner came from a suicide bomb-maker's workshop, though I'm not sure where this came from. In any case, it will surprise no one that the Iraqi anti-terrorist forces operate on rather looser legal and procedural rules than our guys do. The fact that some detainee was present in a terrorist-associated facility was all they needed to know to justify pursuing whatever actions they felt appropriate to gain more information from him and/or condemn him, and they had little interest in keeping that person's terrorist regalia around after noting the fact that he had it in his possession the first place. My acquaintance would wait for his Iraqi charges to record it in accordance to protocol, then throw it away, before picking it out of the trash and putting it in his pocket.

This example has fringe all the way around and no suspension device, so it appears to have been a wall banner. It was brand new, still in the wrapper until removed by Iraqi forces for examination. It is made of light rayon, and measures about 34" x 58".
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From previously on the WAF ...
Old 07-15-2019, 11:17 PM   #2
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Al Queda / Islamic State (ISIS) Banner or Flag
... Today this banner is more formally recognized as that of the
Black Standard of the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIS or Daesh)
but it was originally used by Al Qaeda in Iraq, and I believe it dates
to just before the IS split with AQ - so technically, I believe this is an
Al Qaeda banner, though the only thing that would mark one from the
other is time. ... made of light rayon, and measures about 34" x58".
Thanks for the interesting flag post. From previously on the
WAF I note that such is listed as
"al-rāya "the banner" or rayat
al-`uqab "banner of the eagle" after the hadith tradition, and has
been dubbed the black flag of jihad by western observers. Islamic
extremist organizations that use such a black flag include al‑Qaeda,
al‑Shabaab, the Islamic Courts Union, the Islamic State of Iraq and
Hizbul Islam (2009). Some variant designs depict the second phrase
of the shahada in the form of the historical seal of Muhammad."
Flag
of "he observed, or testified.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Standard
and
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ansar_a...ia_%28Libya%29
OFW
(below) From these sources, the Sharia_flag, ... "...no god but God,
Muhammad is his messenger.
"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shahada

(below-2) Captured flag picture from the 2011 unpleasantness in Libya.

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More ISIS flag examples ...
Old 07-17-2019, 03:32 PM   #3
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... Black Standard of the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIS or Daesh)
... This example has fringe all the way around and no suspension device, so it
appears to have been a wall banner. It was brand new, still in the wrapper
until removed by Iraqi forces for examination. It is made of light rayon, and
measures about 34" x 58".
... some 52 pages (3,069 photos), can be viewed online ---> here.
OFW
(below) From as cited source, a sewn ISIS flag without any fringe.
"flag is black with the words La 'ilaha 'illa-llah – "There is no God but God" –
emblazoned across the top in white in a somewhat coarse, handwritten
Arabic script. It’s a very different kind of typeface from the more elaborate
calligraphy on the Saudi flag, for example, that also includes this same shahada,
or Islamic statement of faith. Even more rough around the edges is the white
circle in the middle of the ISIS flag. Inside it are three words: "God Messenger
Mohammed." It’s an interesting choice of word order given that the second part
of the shahada is "and Mohammed is God’s messenger.""

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